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 09-18-2006, 20:02 Post: 135272
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Im with Chief, know Murf think our Dodges are second rate, but I have $200 in repairs after 100K. The crank shaft position sensor had to be replaced. I have not even had to change the brake pads yet. I had good luck out of my Ford also, but had to change a 2$ seal in the rear end at 60K and it was recalled a number of times. It was the first year for the F150 in 97. I changed the rear end oil and replaced the seal in the rear end so a $60 fix for me, but I am sure it would have been a $300 job at the Ford shop.

The last Chevy I worked on was a friends truck with a bad bearing at 100K. I was not impressed. A friend with an engine shop says he fixes 3 GM for each Ford or Chrysler. Parts are cheap and plentiful, but I am not sure this is a good or bad thing. Supply normally follow demand.

The Geo Prism is from the Toyota/GM plant in Fremont CA. It is essentially a badge engineered Corolla. The Pontiac Jibe is also from this plant, a badge engineered Matrix.






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 09-19-2006, 15:38 Post: 135302
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Murf; When I bought mine they had a new Ford sitting right next to it. We tested one after the other. The Ford was quieter outside and the Dodge better inside. Both were the delux models so the sound insulation was the best offered. I thought the deeper tone of the Dodge was less abrasive to the nerves.
I am with Chief, if the Cummins was in the Ford I would have bought one. This was the first Dodge I have bought. I gained a low mile Omni 024 with my wife and a pile of work. At the time I could not convince her to flog the dog and keep my 74 Volvo 142 GL. After rebuilding the upper end I basicly gave it away. I never wanted another one.
DR I think I would have argued that the moving piston had caused the damage not the stationary block. My experience with Toyota has also been less than stellar. We bought a Previa van in 92 just out of waranty the switch for the oil reservior pump broke and decided to empty it into the engine. Luckally I caught it, my wife would have toasted the engine, but I could not figure out why they did not use gravity feed. Naturally the switch was $300 and you needed to remove the crossmember and oil pan to get at it. I talked the area service rep into the repair. At about 60K the unibody started to sag and the front window cracked. Toyota looked the other way on this one althought the body was still under waranty. When the van was hit in a front end offset crash, I was lucky to walk away despite the fact I was barely moving trying to avoid the on coming car. Naturally I had it written off. Luckally it happened just before the insurance institute demonstrated their offset crash on the Previa, showing it to be a death trap above 40 mph and reduced the resale to nil.






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 09-19-2006, 19:20 Post: 135310
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Chief;
I would say Honda for the value aspect, when you add the price into the mix. I am not sure I would extend the complement to all the models either. There was some badge engineering in the Honda line up. You can not say they are the best in ultimate quality compared to something like some of the big Lexus most fall short.
Personally I think you have to go back to the 60's before you have a GM product that is better than the competition at the time. My uncle had a 68 olds that clocked 400,000 miles without a problem. Most at university had GM cars of this vintage and many were extremely high milers.






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 09-22-2006, 17:43 Post: 135382
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DR, must have been your desire to spin the tires. A friend of mine had the same set up, I am not sure what the final milage was for the van as it was still in the family with 300K on it the last we talked.






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 09-24-2006, 14:44 Post: 135416
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DR, naturally I was joking, the only way you could spin the wheels was on ice with that combination. The sister van was in southern Ontario near Murf so it saw some cold weather, but only gets real cold now and then. It was a rare combination but I think I saw another one or two with over 100K with no problems. I thought it was a good rig as they were something like 25 mpg on the highway.
Amsoil? Yes there may be a link. Naturally there are few recourse with them when the mechanics fails.






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